By: orthogonality
The “campesinos and other undesirables”? Wow, you certainly do not live in California. Speaking as the grandson of a “campesino” myself. I think troy was using language that approximates the viewpoint of many conservatives Republicans, not advocating that viewpoint himself. In other words, Republicans don’t care about the health of people they see as, and marginalize as, “campesinos and other undesirables”.
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By: @troy
understand the mindset there’s the dislike of the forced-charity thing, yes, but note that in 1961, and later in 1980 in the debate with Carter, Reagan was willing to pay lip service to the limited, optional, de-centralized Kerr-Mills subsidized cost-sharing plan. So there’s also the conservative fear of being locked into a nationalized, anti-competitive system you don’t like or is otherwise inferior to what you had before. At least with a private system you theoretically have a choice to change service providers. If you have enough theoretical money, or happen to fall under welfare program, of course. I mock free-market fundamentalists when able, but it probably is true that to really screw things up requires a government. But I also think Mencken in his darkness was right: “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard”.
By: semmi
BILL MOYERS: The Republicans have more than health care reform in their bomb sights — they want a loss for Obama so crushing it will bring the administration to its knees and restore Republican control of Congress after next year’s elections. In the words of Republican Senator Jim DeMint, “If we’re able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him.”
